Thursday, March 25, 2004

IAS Vs IIM (MBA) Debate!!


Time and again.. this is the question which keeps trickling.. in the minds of almost every student of our country. The reasons for this are varied. Well.. i m not gonna mention all.. but would essentially try to throw light on some.. one by one..

Lemme began the first by quoting, an excerpt from our national pink dailies - The Economic Times or ET as it is popularly known.

TIMES NEWS NETWORK[ MONDAY, MARCH 22, 2004 02:10:43 PM ]
MUMBAI: While one acronym symbolises power, the other symbolises pelf....


Quite true.. as said above.. IAS is the gateway to power.. whereas an MBA from IIM opens door to Dollar Salaries.. Working in Dream Companies.. and so on!

Every year.. once the placements in these Centres of Excellence gets over.. this question arises again..!! The reason.. the graduates from these institutes are offered start-up salaries which an IAS, IFS or IPS officer would make close to the end of a career spanning three decades.

This salary imbalance often lead to uncomfortable situations.. putting the student in a dilemna whether he should go for an MBA or a Career in Civil Services.. which is said to be the prestigious career since British Raj The IAS is seen as an illustrious career-path that could do wonders to one's self-esteem and could rocket the family repute as well.

I can elaborate on this much more.. but for now.. i invite you to comment on this post.. about what would you have gone in for and why if given a choice between the two!!

I 'll definitely get back to this post again soon..
Till then.. Goodbye from me!

167 Comments:

At July 17, 2007 at 4:09 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

IIM MBA CAT

 
At July 20, 2007 at 10:25 AM, Blogger rajesh said...

hi..every one..
ias r mba...?????
wat to prepare for...cat r civils...?????
ooh god help me out... get me a solution..with all de + , - 's for choosing dat track ....
cat seems quite easy to crack compared to civils...
i got only 2 years left...before leaving dis iit kgp...
i hav to do som thing ... first clear my dilemma ...
rajesh.ravipati@gmail.com

 
At June 2, 2008 at 4:00 PM, Blogger prabhat said...

yar , frankly speaking ias offers you the platform from where you can really work to improve the various levels of society.the job of ias provides diversified experience of life........which is always exciting for a guy who cant settle for monotonous job ....ultimately your work directly influences the countrys future......isnt so exciting?well ofcourse u dont get big salary packets as in mba.......but life is not money-machine...........and country like india where u need thousands and thousands life to know it........i always feel job of 30 yrs in ias is still short

 
At September 25, 2008 at 8:42 PM, Blogger neo said...

if money is ur only goal go for iim

if you need power and satisfaction in your job prefer civils

 
At December 11, 2008 at 2:02 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

ias or iim..
An ias officer is a pet of politicians.. an uneducated politician can hav ful control over an ias officer,esp.tranferring anywhere at his will..

ias- prestige,less pay better perks.
iim- great salary,more working hours and stress.

 
At January 14, 2009 at 12:39 AM, Blogger parashar amit said...

I asked this particular question a lot.Most of the time answer is "POWER".I can't understand what kind of power people seek.IAS are vested with power,power to change the society, to eradicate socio-economic problems.To choose any career is measured only on job satisfaction...and for me it is by being an IAS or a civil servant.This way I can serve my country directly with maximum efficiency and be satisfied.Obviously I shall get a bacon light car with a VIP status and a bodyguard.

 
At February 1, 2009 at 6:10 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Hi everyone..
I just want to list the pros and cons in IAS and IIM(MBA) as of my knowledge.

Pros in IAS:
1.Power,power,power
2.Prestige,challenging work in district,divisional and central levels
3.Facilities,respect ,contacts etc
4.If you move back from any service to corporate world after some years,you will be paid more than your peers.

cons in IAS:
1.less money.
2.remote working places in the begining of the career...any rural district
3.No metrolife...no multiplexes,no pizzahuts,no pubs and discos...this is the one most disliked for me
4.requires hard work and dedication to get in
5.political pressures


pros in IIM(MBA)
1.more money,luxurious life
2.Challenging work life
3.Metro life...hospitals,international schools for children,fun and entertainment
4.independent thinking and innovation

cons in IIM(MBA)
1.no power in society..may be in his/her firm.
2.No govt facilities
3.lots of working hours...of course as an IAS servant you should be promised to work 24*7

still i am in dilemma which one should i select?
I like sme gud features in IAS and some gud features in IIM(MBA).i couldnt able to decide ...
I flipped many times between these two

guys ,please post your opinions also...suggest me ASAP

i would be gr8ful to u ,if u solve my problem

I dont hav any contacts of IAS/IIM graduates..or else i could have met them and clarified my doubts

waiting for ur reply
Thanx a ton in anticipation

Regards
Anish
bak.040@gmail.com

 
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At March 17, 2009 at 2:03 PM, Blogger sbasu said...

The ones like Anish should never come to civils!
Why?
Simply because the one in civils must be ready to sacrifice much more than that Anish is bothered about.("No metrolife...no multiplexes,no pizzahuts,no pubs and discos...this is the one most disliked for me"-Anish)

 
At May 8, 2009 at 2:54 AM, Anonymous ankit said...

comparing IAS with IIM IS JUST A Foolishness. Its upto the individual that what he/she wants to do in their life. you just want to earn money or you want to do something for your society,where you will be decision makers of your country. One thing fore sure that in management sector, one will be focussed within one sector only, whereas in ias you may land up in different sectors, lot mny situations to tackled out there, lot many challenges. So, its a matter of choice.. power or money..

 
At July 19, 2009 at 12:21 AM, Anonymous ashwin said...

hi..everyone..
yah its corect that ias pay scale is very less compared to mba..but it is satisfactory and you can fullfill almost every need.moreover you get many government fascilities like bunglow(in civil lines),driver,bodyguard,maid etc.what else you want....!

 
At September 11, 2009 at 2:32 PM, Blogger Ravi said...

i have completed mba and confuse with to go for civil or naukri

 
At October 18, 2009 at 4:03 PM, Blogger santy said...

hi,there is no comparision of ias with iim ,ias are far ahead in every aspect in terms of power as well in money also

 
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At May 12, 2010 at 4:12 PM, Blogger saee said...

Really there is no comparision between civils and MBA.It is much better to choose Civils rather than MBA.MBA helps you to live for yourself where as IAS helps to live for the country.Our country's present and as well as future depends on Your service as an IAS officer.

 
At June 5, 2010 at 12:37 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

self satisfaction is the basic factor that should be considered.ias officers have to face political pressure whereas mba have to work under stress 24*7.

 
At June 26, 2010 at 3:32 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

About me, I have completed my engineering and placed in an mnc.
Its not the only matter of power and money. But the most important thing is that we got to live with our family members also happily. Its not possible through MBA so easily. But it is very much easy for an IAS officer to live anywhere around the country. One thing more, money is not less for an ias officer.
so, the last chance is yours.

can anybody help me out in subject selection for getting through in civil services ? Please mail me at
saurabh86.shekhar@gmail.com
I wil be very much thankful to you.

 
At July 5, 2010 at 12:40 AM, Anonymous divya said...

amazingly..., i can identify with most of the ppl above...
though i am not confused about what to go for....
i always wanted to do i.a.s....!!!
but it has alot of ups n downs(talking about the preparation) n it has a highly uneven track to traverse.
i am in d.u doing chem hons final yr.. n im clueless whether i should prepare for mba or not bcoz in the end it is ias i want to go for.
can any of you suggest me any good post graduation course which could later help me to prepare for ias...???
please mail me @ divya2222@gmail.com

 
At July 8, 2010 at 7:03 PM, Blogger satya said...

i think both streams are worthier enough. it depends on wht type of life do u seek?metro life ...........exposure to the world.....go for iims.otherwise ..........
and what seems to u as power has many restrction as well

 
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At July 31, 2010 at 3:21 PM, Blogger Abhishek Tiwari said...

ias--- exceptional hard work,exceptional power that too at a very young age, gateway to india's most lucrative job i.e.politics, exceptional reputation, exceptional fame, exceptional money(according to ur choice)...exceptional opportunity to form opinion on almost every topic under the sun....ranging from vedas to hollywood...finally ias is all about serving the aspirations of millions.......cabinet secretary the top most for an ias runs the econmoy of $1tn for more than 1 bn people...

MBA(IIM)-----hard work, gud reputation, exceptional exposure to corporate world, exceptional money,gud fame, almost unidimensional approach (i.e. optimising profit in terms of financia transaction).finally mab is all about selling something.....
the top most for an mba runs a company

 
At September 4, 2010 at 8:45 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

See if u choose iim there is definately lot of money in it but in fact even in civil services there is sufficient money according to 6th pay comission...civil services are best...

 
At September 11, 2010 at 9:46 PM, Anonymous barney stinson..!! said...

why the hell is it always about money..?? people are earning huge packages just to raise their standard of living..that is they might buy mercedes,ferrari..just to gain respect but once you are an IAS officer you'll easily get that respect..!! and the thing about metro life and pizza hut..!! you can enjoy that as well..take a leave and travel the world..!! you can always take a sabbatical if you want to study more..!! and the political pressure thing..if you even slap a politicain he can't do any any thing to you..he only posses power to tranfer you..or put you in aloop line...in case of an iim grad..if you slap your boss..you'll then have to find a new job.>!
still guy's MBA route is much easier then the IAS.

 
At October 1, 2010 at 10:08 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

i will have to wait for a year after 4 yrs of engineering...because i will not be 21yrs old on August 1 of my year of passing out the institute.shud i prepare for ias...or go for mba after passin out and den prepare for ias...

 
At October 27, 2010 at 6:52 PM, Anonymous Neeraj chaubey said...

Yaar, there is no comparison between IAS and IIM. Look, IAS is nothing but a career indulge with most repectable in society and commendabel job. It enhence not only to you but your family get the zoom like rocket in the sky while IIM pass out is just doing a lucrative package job in tata, reliance or some other MNC.

Overall, IIM can be cracked surely with serious preparation of 6 months but for IAS its 2 years rigorous hard work and still not confirmed taht whether later would be cleared or not.

 
At January 7, 2011 at 7:36 PM, Blogger KUMAR GOURAV said...

HI All,
Its Gourav from itbhu.
I donno y ppl think an IIM PG can't serve our nation. There are plethora of examples, where you find an IIM PGP pass out, carrying responsibilities of national importance. You cant ignore those ppl who r running their own entrepreneurship cells and serving the nation in a better way, than an ias officer can do. Here i am not discouraging the ias aspirants bt the desire to serve ones nation can be fulfilled in any of these two ways.
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At January 8, 2011 at 3:15 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Well, I'm son of an IAS officer and my all friends are into MBA (IIMs & IITs)...when people talk about innovative skills involved in MBA I have a point. That can be applied in civils feild too. I have seen many IAS officers opening various schools in suburban areas, forest officers are in demand as green managers in this global warming era. End of the day I fully agree that preparations for an IAS is the most difficult aspect but if you see the pain not the gain you are the loser.Nothing can be compared to IAS or for that matter the country governance of any country is THE MOST PRESTIGIOUS JOB ONE CAN DO.If you seriously want to stand tall in this world IAS is way to go. Immense recognition, exceptional perks, decent salary and to top it all inner satisfaction. If you want to start your own business probably IAS officers (though historically they aren't oriented that way but someone has to start and it can be you)have an upper hand coz they gain huge benifits as they are in the government. I am too an indian forest service aspirant and if I carck it, doing job will not be my only life, I will certainly apply all my engineering and managerial skills in opening some kind of "green" firm or NGO to save earth from climate change. Lastly, no comparision between an IAS and an IIM. Management is a mean minded course where you have to fool your customers through lucrative offers even if they don't need it. For civils, if you are honest enough, you can do wonders coz no matter what you do, you'll never get fired and you can carry on.....

 
At April 9, 2011 at 12:58 AM, Anonymous venus said...

hi guys......comparing ias with iim is totally unusual..ias is much ahead n better as compared to iim...though in iim there is money but there is no respect,free facilities n most importantly the AUTHORITY...in a crowded area an ias officer will have a distinct personality..iam an ias aspirant n iam 19 years old n iam preparing to appear in upsc 2013 exam..so in last the final conclusion according to me is that ias is best n above all...

 
At April 25, 2011 at 6:28 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

I am working in Corporate IT world and currently 29Yrs of age (7 Yrs. of Exp in IT). Every person has its own perception to it, whether IAS or IIM?
See my Thinking below:
IIM is just for selfish people who wants to earn Money for themselves and to hell with rest of the world.
IAS is reputed and powerful profession where is person can do a lot to his country.
IIM - Suppose if you are going on a road and by chance get in scuffle with any rickshaw wala or any Hawaldaar (Constable), he can just beat you up mercilessly.
IAS - People just cry to even have a handshake with you.

These are just day to day routine examples, Choice is yours.

 
At April 27, 2011 at 2:19 AM, Blogger Dreamboat said...

My elder bro currently studies at IIM A .I to was thinking of appearing CAT.His life there n the things he tells abt his profs, colleg life etc facinates me very much.But lately heard abt IAS the power, respect etc..
so At this moment I to am confused abt IAS or IIM.Almost evryone i sked told me that IAS ppl get kots of bribe in cluding the salery.

 
At April 30, 2011 at 2:16 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Mr.dreamboat - Kindly elaborate what you want in life?
Money or Respect?
If you are money minded and can sell your integrity for Money go for IIM,,else if you want to do something for your country go for IAS. rest bribe thing depends on you.,,,no one if forcing you, it your decision. OKAY

 
At May 2, 2011 at 12:58 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

I am from a top 5 MBA insti. Currently working for 1yr in an MNC. And I am very dissatisfied. They make you work like dog (weekends, late nights). Money is above average but not superb. There is no power. You are treated like slave (more so inside the company, at the beginning atleast). There is very less honesty, humanity. Motto is earn mone, by hook or by crook.
Now seriously thinking of leaving the job & maybe preparing for IAS..

 
At May 3, 2011 at 8:16 PM, Blogger tarun sharma said...

i will choose ias inspite of mba as respect is more important to me than salary..............

 
At May 10, 2011 at 2:22 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Corporate job is ONLY for SELFISH people who can SELL themselves for MONEY......All CORPORATES ARE PATHETIC PEOPLE.........
IAS is the best profession where in you have a choice to be a corrupt or HONEST, Moreover RESPECT is incomparable at all....
but in corporate there is no option......

 
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At June 2, 2011 at 12:47 AM, Anonymous vatsalya dubey said...

the whole discussion about iim, ias
seems great and surely an eye opener for most of us.different people have different opinions and more or less they are equally correct.i am a 1st year student having same issues and to be honest i am still not sorted thanks to the pleothra of views and opinions posted.such dilemma is justified as after all who dose'nt want a fulfilled life with the satisfaction of serving people and at the same time leading a luxurious life.i'll give my final conclusions later on after i sort out myself on this inevitable debate.

 
At June 27, 2011 at 2:24 PM, Blogger abhishek said...

in fact....both ias and iim require equal levels of determination....in tha case of ias the person needs to study hard by isolating himself from the world during his preparation while remaining in touch with every thing around him......while in the case of iim as well the student needs to go through tough examination procedures as well.....today as we can see the students who get even 99.9% in the cat are not selected by the iims due to various reasons.ultimately the two lines are equally demanding..in tha case of mba tha person gets huge money hile in ias it's not....

 
At July 6, 2011 at 2:13 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

some facts:

1. It is true that IAS officers enjoy power and authority but they can do so within a constitutional framework only. Any extra costitutional power or authority enjoyed by any govt officer is against law and shameful.

2. People forget that policy formation and decision making is a collective process and it is not at all the case that IAS officers can take independent decisions.

3. Indian population at large has not been able to shed that pre-independence mentality that govt and govt officers are supreme in the society unlike western societies where entrepreneurship is valued more.

4. Point to be understood here is that a businessman establishes a business which would last for generations whereas an IAS officer derives power an authority by virtue of his position which is bound to go once he retires.

5. People who think that IAS officers can improve the society should understand that bureaucracy has only added to society problems and hsa done less to solve it. Red tapism is a shame.

6. Someone has well said 'Every politics is economics'. Bureaucracy can't alone run this country. We need visionary politicians, able administrators, good managers, good teachers, excellent sports person, fabulous actors to develop this nation. In short every indian citizen is equally responsible and not only ias officer or iim grad.

Hope this discussion is of some help. Thanks.

 
At July 12, 2011 at 1:27 PM, Anonymous rakesh.m said...

see 1st of all there are 2 catagories in IAS,
1)to enjoy the power ,to can make huge money ,property ,name ,fame,to make yours a classic family
2)really working for the country,on the behalf of poor people,farmers and your life will be defintely satisfy with this, ias offers you the platform from where you can really work to improve the various levels of society.the job of ias provides diversified experience of life........which is always exciting for a guy who cant settle for monotonous job ....ultimately your work directly influences the countrys future.....ahh what a life HERO of ur country.

in IIM,
TALENT , money ,luxury
but u r a big ZERO(means not that much explosure) in the society

 
At July 20, 2011 at 9:12 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

ias definitely provides a platform to make lasting impression in society but ias officers use this platform for self improvement, society hardly benefits. Actually, by adding more ias officers, we are introducing more hurdles in the way of development. I would strongly suggest top govt posts be made open for non ias cadres thru lateral entry sceme as is the practice in USA. This would end the monopoly currently being enjoyed by ias.

 
At October 26, 2011 at 2:29 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

The above discussion makes it clear that whether we should go for ias or mba....but how to recognize whether we r capable for ias preparations or not???

 
At November 6, 2011 at 2:08 PM, Blogger Maverick7 said...

The only edge IIMs got over IAS is luxurious and affluent life it renders otherwise IAS is always an better option...An important point to mull is that all of us making the choice between the two are mainly between the age group of 20-25. And at this age we have more inclination towards the glitters and shines of urban city (read some post about worry to miss pizza hut & malls etc.)..but provided we have to make choice between the two at the age of say 30-35, we could have been very decisive and may confidently voted for IAS as a better field because then u realize life is much more than making money and spending it crazily on unearthly things..(Note..any figure u earn its always insufficient..always ther is need for more)...so in long run as an IAS officer u will find your life more complete and purposeful. and its not gud to be myopic while deciding your career path as it determines your life, your achievements.

This was my view, also i would like to add both (iim n ias)being the epitome of their field, u need to have an whole-hearted approach to clear it. so dont start your prepration while you muddling between the two. take your time, decide what you really want in life..it may take months but finally u will be much more focussed and wud have 10 times better chance to clear the exam..
ALL D BEST..!! Since you guys have such big ambitions, i can say U will always excel in your life..!!

 
At November 9, 2011 at 3:56 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

thanx everyone for this wonderful debate experience and now im gettng to knw wat i want in my lyf... in the near future
yes our future generation is more inclined towards the urban society and we just got attracted towards this
but in my opinion we shuld think more of our future than to think of our urban present
we can also enjoy metro lyf as an ias officer....
this is manav gandhi

 
At November 22, 2011 at 5:42 PM, Blogger RamboAsh said...

Newday_Newsun.....

Ask a simple question to yourself. Do we all have to be an IAS officer to serve the society?...............

We dont have to be an IAS officer to serve the nation..IAS refers to serve society is utter crap.. be a doctor, scientist, teacher etc and play your honest role for society. Once you do that thn u get the real feel of peace called satisfaction. Do whatever u wanna do , IAS,IIM, LLB, CCIE etc,, but u can serve nation antime

take care mates

 
At November 25, 2011 at 4:47 AM, Blogger Abhi said...

Hi guys
Seems there is some war between the guys supporting an IAS and an eunterprenuers. Alright before commenting anything I would like to say that I am a chemical engineering graduate from BITS Pilani(class 2010)(guys m not braggin please :D). I know a lot of my friends have started their own firm in bangalore and will surely be successful eunterprenuers in future. A EEE senior bagged 4th rank in UPSC and recently I friend of mine bagged Rs. 1 crore from some bank(obviously doller converted :P IIM A grad).

Coming to the point, being an IAS officer, an euterprenuer or an investment banker is purely an individuals ambition. U have to decide how u want to die(as among the above mention :D). Justifying your ambitions over others taking others names/profession is bullshit.

Well whatever u do, if u can live with it is kool. U can serve the nation by being any of the above. There is no debate over it.

Now coming to my short autobiography :P. I too wanted to become an IAS officer when I was in XIIth. I prepared for IIT JEE, ended in BITS. Now have given CAT n hopefully would fit in some IIM and then I plan to start a technology driven company. Yes Over the last 6 years, many times I thought of preparing for UPSC, eradicate corruption, fight against the corrupt politicians, remove social inequality by being an IAS oficer. But it's not so easy guys when u don't get even 10% of what an investment banker gets. At this point of time I can say I can help myself, my nation more effectively by being an eunterprenuer than being an IAS officer. This is just my case. No generalization please. If u think u can serve yourself and then nation by being an IAS officer and not an eunterprenuer, well go for it. :Respect.

"To conclude, u can do whatever u want to do(serving yourselves and nation) only if u r satisfied with your profession and do what u think is great work. There is no point fighting on threads like this and justfying 1s opinion."

PS: Chetan Bhagat an IIT/IIM grad leaves his job as an investment banker and is now writing books that is undoubtedly changing the society...Kool job!!!

 
At November 26, 2011 at 2:42 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

It is entirely a matter of personal interest i.e. what exactly a person is inclined towards,..... both IIM & IAS are good options, but the only thing is do you really love the job profile?????

 
At December 22, 2011 at 12:04 AM, Anonymous Biman Baruah said...

IAS if u want to serve your Nation..and help the needy peoples and contribute for development of your nation...Power and Perks doesn't matters...here matters Interest

 
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At March 13, 2012 at 2:11 AM, Blogger ashwini said...

If you really compare the 2 fields in terms of salary u bettter opt for CAT. The one who really want to serve people, help poor, resolve the social problems will go towards I.A.S without bothering about salary or workload.......!!!!!!

 
At March 13, 2012 at 2:11 AM, Blogger ashwini said...

If you really compare the 2 fields in terms of salary u bettter opt for CAT. The one who really want to serve people, help poor, resolve the social problems will go towards I.A.S without bothering about salary or workload.......!!!!!!

 
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IAS - Cabinet Secretary leads a country of 1.2 billion with $1 trillion economy.
Selfless Service
Works to make the poor rich.
Respectful
IAS is an Acronym for Power
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At September 10, 2012 at 3:05 AM, Anonymous IIM GRADUATE said...

Most of the people whom I have seen preparing for IAS are always concerned about the power that this job promises.......They start preparing for IAS just because of the "Power Factor" and not because they want to bring about a change in the society....How selfish is that? I leave it for you to decide.....On similar lines, as you people say, that IIM graduates are enamored by the high pay packages which this brand name guarantees.... So the logical deduction is that both are selfish....one for power and the other one for money......But the real difference is in the intellectual capability of the two ...An IIT\NIT grad having an IIM degree will be far more intellectually capable than a IAS guy , who is an average B Sc. or a B Tech from some tier 2 college and gets into IAS after preparing for 3-5 years....

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At September 12, 2012 at 6:40 PM, Blogger vijay kamthe said...

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Recently i cracked 3 exams : SBI PO, CDS UPSC, CAT.

But my dream is different. Ofcourse it is to have a lavish life, global exposure, celebrating life, lot of white money, FAME-NAME-MONEY... but then there goes... The X-factor..The magic to change things and its called 'POWER'. And being an IAS,you have the magic wand. Well, been from military school, I do love adventures and If i make it through- I can choose 'IPS'. Or if you are too crazy about representing your country-then 'IFS', where in, you not only impact the relations of two great nations but of 1000 corporate businesses and not just 1 by being an IIM Graduate! And who says economically a bureaucrat is an average being?? I bet, to be true and practical, the packages that IIM graduate gets annually, here, if you are in the right department, its montly. + you can change the society... if you managed smartly and accurately the political/Govt support. 'RESPECT' - well well well -> The CEO myt roam in Rolls Royce but the glowing lamp on the car would always be superior! IAS would always be the first citizen. I do agree that An IIT\NIT grad having an IIM degree will be far more intellectually capable than a IAS guy , who is an average B Sc. or a B Tech from some tier 2 college and gets into IAS after preparing for 3-5 years, but his influence would be beyond the reach of former. To debate there would be many things on the list but one thing sure : IIM wins only if in the end you successfully become AMBANIs or TATAs or MITTALs or Azim Premjis and if not... well, lets end the debate!

 
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kishor says,
Both are respectable jobs in their own field,but it depends from individual to individual.A lot depends on the personality of the candidate.The iim offers you more money and wealth,but there is onedrawback, they usually deal only with middle and upper strata of society.They have no connection with poor people.In a country like india where most of the people are poor(60 crore out of 120 crore) we cant keep them at bay for our self development.Of course Ias gives you more opportunity to help the needy when you become DM,Secretary or commissioner.

 
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i read all the post by u all, i think most important thing is who are caring our nation. if one of you start big company, do u pay good salary to your employee do u rally interested in CSR. do if u have rally solve the problem make the things better life on earth.plz not to go for money or power ultimately survival of human mankind on earth is important for next century and our next generations.
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At September 23, 2012 at 10:05 PM, Blogger Suhel Rambhad said...

because , if u go for making money or better service of country, because things are naturally going out of control of human brains.just read all of your comments. we all are just looking for races of job and good life. not looking beyond that. nether it would be out of control for both IAS and Entrepreneurs.

 
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Mr. Vijay Kamthe.......Private sector is responsible for 3/4 th of the GDP of our country.....IAS officers have been there for ages but they can not change the shape of the country.....They can only formulate rules and policies for the corporate sector which are largely influenced by the lynchpins of the corporate sector.....But it is the people in the private sector who actually take the country forward......Only after the liberalization in 1991 , our country has seen tremendous growth and IT revolution driven by the corporate sector is responsible for that....I will give you a very simple analogy.....IAS are like the cricket administrators who formulate selection policies and rules .....but corporate are like the players who go out there in the field and bring laurels to the nation .......Now my question to you is that, who do you respect more?........Kris srikanth as a selector or sachin tendulkar as a player....I am talking about the bigger picture.....just read some books on how Indian Economy has developed over the years and you will realize who has made the real difference to the society......Corporates or the IAS....

 
At September 27, 2012 at 10:16 PM, Anonymous IIM Graduate said...

Mr Kishore.......Business, either small scale or large scale has given employment to a lot of poor people who otherwise would have continued to languish.....What govt does (in conjunction with the IAS) is that it doles out subsidies to the poor people which never reaches the intended beneficiaries....That is there way of dealing with the poor.....They leave the employment generation to the private sector .....and this is what will pull them out of poverty rather then the subsidies which government offers.....

 
At September 27, 2012 at 10:16 PM, Anonymous IIM Graduate said...

Mr Kishore.......Business, either small scale or large scale has given employment to a lot of poor people who otherwise would have continued to languish.....What govt does (in conjunction with the IAS) is that it doles out subsidies to the poor people which never reaches the intended beneficiaries....That is there way of dealing with the poor.....They leave the employment generation to the private sector .....and this is what will pull them out of poverty rather then the subsidies which government offers.....

 
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I totally agree with you "IIM Graduate"......IAS is just an exam for which you prepare behind closed doors or at best go to a coaching institute .....it does not develop your personality or change your thought process as a human being.......On the contrary IIM is a full time course where after preparing and cracking one of the toughest aptitude exam you interact with some of the sharpest brains in the country for 2 years......You are mentored by some of the best mentors in the country.....IAS does not offer anything of that sort initially....Later there are opportunities but nothing like an IIM ....the two can not be compared.....One is a full time course and other is an exam......

 
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If I take ur points that IIT-IIM-NIT grads form the intellectual covens of the 1.2bn people then why can't they devise some entrepreneural ideas to help the people who are below the BPL to get above the Poverty Line??
Why can't those 'intellectually superior ' grads find a common solution to fight the economic meltdown??
Why do Govts' have to help bankrupt companies if corporate lynchpins have formulated the world policies and influenced world economy more than Govt servants??
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Infact upsc is much tougher so they can me attributed as smarter, and as far as clearing an exam is concerned, even IIT jee and CAT is prepared with slogging.

UPSC also has personality test which tests life skills.

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Money , i think any IAS can make more money (more than 100 times that of an I-banker) smartly...

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